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Significance of few factors among several

gam1

Hello everyone,

I would like to study an impact of the six factors on evaporation (at the end I would like to have a “rigorous” model with possible interaction effects and power terms):

I already know that the first four have a strong impact on evaporation and would like to know whether the last two (plate load, volume/well) should also be included in the study (model).

How do you suggest to to set up an experiment? Would it be most efficient to first find out whether the two factors (plate load, volume/well) are significant (how to set up a DOE for this purpose?) and then proceed with DOE (augmented DOE?) to get more accurate information about the factors and their (possible) interactions?

Thank you in advance!

Best regards

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statman

Thank you for the explanation. While I agree with sequential investigation, IMHO, it is better to start with a large design space and hopefully interpolate. By this I mean lots of factors at bold levels to start. The issue is inference space. The smaller the inference space, the less likely the results will hold true in the future (when this conditions invariably change). If you only experiment on 2 factors, what are the other factors "doing" during this experiment (e.g., are they changing?, are they constant?). Since you have not quantified nor rank ordered the effect of the 4 factors, why not run a lower resolution 6 factor design with the factors at 2 levels (e.g., 2^6-2 res IV, 16 treatments or 2^6-3 res III, 8 treatments). The next iterations can help to understand more complex model terms (e.g., non-linear). At there same time, you might want to run repeats and estimate the factor effects on both the mean and variation of evaporation rate(or at least minimize measurement error).

In the end, I always suggest you design multiple options (no one knows the "best" design á priori. For each option, predict what you can learn (e.g., what effects can be estimated, which may be confounded and which are not in the study). Weigh this knowledge against the resource requirements. Choose one and prepare to iterate. The purpose of the first experiment is to design a better experiment.

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P_Bartell

First question I have is do you really want the Role of all but one of the factors as discrete numeric?

gam1

No, it is not mandatory. The factors could also be treated as continuous numeric.

P_Bartell

Next questions...are you in screening mode? Or optimization mode wrt to your study? What are your specific experimental goals and objectives?

statman

I do not understand the situation enough to provide specific advice and perhaps my thoughts are not useful.

I do have some questions/comments:

Not sure I understand what the response is? Is it rate of evaporation? Evaporation of what (I assume some kind of liquid)? How is it determined (e.g., delta volume, delta weight...)? Have you studied the measurement process?

"I would like to study an impact of the six factors on evaporation (at the end I would like to have a “rigorous” model with possible interaction effects and power terms):"

Do you want a model for explanation and/or for prediction? (What Pete is asking). The model should be useful and appropriate. Having a complex (rigorous) model does not make it better (I would say the exact opposite is true).

"I already know that the first four have a strong impact on evaporation and would like to know whether the last two (plate load, volume/well) should also be included in the study (model)." How did you study the first 4 factors (e.g., observation, experimentation)?. What levels were plate load and volume at when those 4 were studied? If they were constant, the effects of the 4 factors you studied are contingent on those levels (they are part of the inference space). If they varied, they would contribute to the experimental error. Realize the design space and inference space will impact how useful the experiment will be for prediction.

“Unfortunately, future experiments (future trials, tomorrow’s production) will be affected by environmental conditions (temperature, materials, people) different from those that affect this experiment…It is only by knowledge of the subject matter, possibly aided by further experiments to cover a wider range of conditions, that one may decide, with a risk of being wrong, whether the environmental conditions of the future will be near enough the same as those of today to permit use of results in hand.”

Dr. Deming

Scientifically, it seems likely that higher T (if it is temperature), higher exposure Time, increased shaking speed and no lid would increase evaporation rate. What is the surface area of the material that is evaporating? What are the ambient conditions (e.g., dew point)? How representative is the material that is evaporating during the experiments of future material?

I'm not sure I understand your level setting. Analysis is easier if the levels are balanced and equidistant (e.g., T at 20, 27, 34; ExpTime at 4, 7, 10)

gam1

I didn't do any measurements yet. Firstly, I would like to identify whether the plate load and the volume/well are significant factors. Secondly, and this is the main goal of the study, I would like to have a prediction model for the evaporation (rate). The evaporation is unwanted side effect that I would like to reduce.

gam1

"Not sure I understand what the response is? Is it rate of evaporation? Evaporation of what (I assume some kind of liquid)? How is it determined (e.g., delta volume, delta weight...)? Have you studied the measurement process?"

The response is a rate of evaporation of a liquid and it is undesirable effect that I would like to minimize. The evaporation rate will be measured by weighting the remaining liquid.

"Do you want a model for explanation and/or for prediction? (What Pete is asking). The model should be useful and appropriate. Having a complex (rigorous) model does not make it better (I would say the exact opposite is true)."

As already explained in response to Pete's question, firstly, I would like to better understand what are the factors that effect evaporation (are the plate load and the volume/well significant factors?) and, secondly, obtain a prediction model which I will use to reduce evaporation.

"How did you study the first 4 factors (e.g., observation, experimentation)?"

I know that the first 4 factors impact evaporation from observation. This is also in agreement with my knowledge of chemistry/physics. I have a "feeling" that the last 2 factors might also have and impact on evaporation. I would like to confirm/reject this by conducting experiments/measurements. I assume that these measurements can be also used later in DOE (the aim of this DOE would be construction of a prediction model).

statman

gam1

I don't understand what do you mean with the "hopefully interpolate". Could you explain?